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It rgt

Look at this, the Multinational CIMIC Group South (Motta di Livenza) has become a regiment, as far as I understand. Just for your info. No CoA avlbl for this rgt, ex 7th engineer. Would like to let you know that starting from this year I'm going to gradually withdraw from de.wp (and de, the country); approaching 20 yrs, and I think it's enough. Greetings form Guate 190.56.113.16 18:23, 25 January 2024 (UTC)

It's the CoA of the 7th, and also the CoA of the 9° Battaglione Guerra Elettronica "Rombo" for the new 9th Electronic Warfare Battalion "Rombo". They updated the army's website late on Thursday evening. Thank you for letting me know. And sad to see you leave wiki. Cheers, Noclador (talk) 04:29, 26 January 2024 (UTC)

Commons:Overwriting existing files

Hi. Please do not make dynamic files as explained in the above page. Please look to build a series of files that reflected the data that changes through time. That also allows you to have an underlying redirect, that can update to a point to the correct chronological reference. So please upload your 2024 image under that name, and update as required. Thanks.  — billinghurst sDrewth 02:53, 26 January 2024 (UTC) : No. Not gonna upload a new file every time the army merely tweaks its structure. Doing that only for the major reforms. If not we will have 4-5 versions per year. Noclador (talk) 02:59, 26 January 2024 (UTC)

@Billinghurst: Reconsidered your argument after seeing your comment at the file in question. 2024 file is now at: File:Italian Army organization 2024.png. Best regards, Noclador (talk) 03:51, 26 January 2024 (UTC)

I know it is a tricky one, especially finding the balance. It is also the big step back and not think about only your intended use, but also how others can use these files on and off wiki, and how we document and keep them accurate and educational. Thanks for the consideration.  — billinghurst sDrewth 04:05, 26 January 2024 (UTC)

Organigramma Esercito Italiano

Ciao, ho alcune puntualizzazioni da fare riguardo l'organigramma dell'Esercito Italiano:

• I reggimenti, indipendentemente dal fatto che siano mono- o pluri-battaglione, dovrebbero avere il simbolo NATO apposito (III), in quanto si tratta a tutti gli effetti di reparti comandati da colonnelli;
• I reparti comando delle Divisioni "Acqui", "Vittorio Veneto" e "Tridentina" sono unità a livello reggimento;
• Il reparto comando del COMAVES è a livello reggimento;
• Il Centro Addestrativo AVES ha al suo interno il Reparto Corsi Specialistici/Terrestri a livello battaglione;
• Il 4º Reggimento di Sostegno AVES "Scorpione" è stato trasformato in gruppo squadroni;
• Il Centro di Eccellenza C-IED è a livello reggimento;
• Il Comando Genio si divide in Brigata Genio e Comando Infrastrutture, per semplicità direi di lasciare solamente la brigata nell'organigramma;
• La Brigata Genio ha al suo interno il Centro di Supporto del Genio alla Protezione delle Forze a livello reggimento;
• Il Comando Trasmissioni ha al suo interno il Reparto Tecnico Elettronico a livello compagnia;
• Il Centro Formazione Informazioni Tattiche è a livello reggimento.

--Araldica AMI (talk) 09:56, 26 February 2024 (UTC)

Ulteriore aggiunta: il Centro Addestramento Operazioni Speciali del COMFOSE è a livello battaglione. Araldica AMI (talk) 06:56, 27 February 2024 (UTC)

Grazie per le informazioni. I reggimenti, anche se sono comandati da colonnelli, rimangono con il simbolo di battaglione visto che si tratta di battaglione. In altri eserciti NATO colonnelli comandano brigate, solo in Italia che ha troppi ufficiali i colonnelli comandano unita con la forza di battaglione. Stesso argomento con i reparti delle divisioni e del AVES che sono formati da due compagnie, ma comandati da Colonnelli. La grafica è basato sui ranghi dei comandanti ma sul numero di truppe. Cambiato: 4º Gruppo Squadroni di Sostegno AVES "Scorpione", Centro Addestramento Operazioni Speciali del COMFOSE, e aggiunto Reparto Corsi Specialistici/Terrestri, Centro di Supporto del Genio alla Protezione delle Forze e Reparto Tecnico Elettronico. Noclador (talk) 12:07, 28 February 2024 (UTC)

Colour coding

What does the colour coding of the military unit icons indicate? Such as red, orange, yellow, green, blue and purple Larsche ENG (talk) 21:15, 3 March 2024 (UTC)

As per Italian Army tradition, and gorget patches (collar tabs, collar patches) in Italian called "Mostrine", the color of the infantry is red, mountain troops is green, paratroopers is sky-blue, cavalry is orange, armor is red and blue, artillery is yellow, engineers is crimson, army aviation is sky-blue, transmission is electric blue and red, transportation and materials corps is black and blue, commissary is dark-violet, sanitary is purple red, veterinary is pale sky-blue. FrancescoC.italy (talk) 15:54, 26 August 2024 (UTC)

idf

Hi, really appreciate your work and the NATO Joint Military Symbology military charts that you made. I saw that you recently created charts for all the Israeli divisions in the IDF, but the unified diagram in the IDF central Wikipedia entry is old and not updated, is there a possibility to unite them or create an updated one? Aviadav (talk) 13:19, 25 June 2024 (UTC)

thank you. I would love to update the main graphic of the IDF, alas there is not enough information as to the changes in the various staffs. For the commands I found all units on the Hebrew wiki, but for the staff organization using google translate doesn't work. If someone provides all the needed changes I will then update the main graphic too. Best regards, Noclador (talk) 23:55, 25 June 2024 (UTC)

Thank you very much, I'll see what I can do. Can you update the idf Central Command graphics and the battalions of the 417th Territorial brigade according to to what appears in the Hebrew Wiki? (If you need it, I will send you an English translation) Aviadav (talk) 17:13, 10 July 2024 (UTC)

@Aviadav: I can certainly update the graphics once more information is available. If you can update the respective articles, please do so. If you wish for me to update the articles and then the graphics, please put the information that needs to be inserted into the articles here below. Thank you, Noclador (talk) 00:52, 14 July 2024 (UTC)

How to ask for speedy-delete of an empty category

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When you want to ask for speedy-delete of an empty category, best practice is to mark it with either:

{{SD|C2}} ("unuseful empty category") if it would be OK to re-create it in the future, given that appropriate content becomes available

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You could also use:

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The above templates expand to full speedy deletion requests.

In particular, this is better practice than just blanking the category page, as you did at Category:187° Reggimento paracadustisti Folgore. ("C1" and "C2" come from Commons:Criteria for speedy deletion).

Thank you. (This is a standardized talk page message)

 ∞∞ Enhancing999 (talk) 07:53, 12 October 2024 (UTC)

Thank you! I was looking for these to delete the three wrongly spelled categories. Noclador (talk) 08:00, 12 October 2024 (UTC)

French armed forces in 2024

Bonjour j'ai retravailler les pages françaises des forces armées francaise et sauf erreur de ma part je n'ai pas trouvé d'organigramme que vous aviez fait sur cette période (2024), je voudrais savoir si cela est prévu ou si vous pourriez me recommander un logiciel permettant me faire des organigrammes similaire à ce que vous avez fait. Thank you in advance. Luludu38 (talk) 16:09, 11 November 2024 (UTC)

Hello, please let me know what changes are required and I will update this graphic within a day: File:French Armée de Terre organization 2023.png. Best regards, Noclador (talk) 16:37, 11 November 2024 (UTC)

This page is up to date https://fr.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Organisation_de_l%27Arm%C3%A9e_de_terre_fran%C3%A7aise the changes are essentially the creation of superieir command as well as support brigades which means that divisions no longer have units that are directly subordinate to them. Luludu38 (talk) 23:01, 11 November 2024 (UTC)

Thank you. I used the page above and the French Army's website to update the English wikipedia's entry about the en:Structure of the French Army. Would you please be so kind to go there and check for errors and omissions? Once I know that the data at "Structure of the French Army" is correct I will create a new graphic to preserver also the old graphic. Thank you, and with best regards, Noclador (talk) 02:30, 12 November 2024 (UTC)

@Luludu38: I created the graphic based on the info I have now. Please check it for errors and omissions, and let me know if there are any changes required. Thank you, Noclador (talk) 19:36, 12 November 2024 (UTC)

It seems to me very good except for some omissions because it seems to me that the uiisc 4 has its first operational elements the BSPP depends on the engineering arm and the 24th battalion of infantry (or regiment I do not know any more) is a reserve unit which depends on the regional command ile de France more if that is possible I would put the battalion of command of the divisions in dotted line because those exist to my knowledge that on paper currently but must be formed at the time of the next law of military programming.

Thank you for your work I'll keep you informed if I have more information Luludu38 (talk) 20:34, 12 November 2024 (UTC)

@Luludu38: Added: UIISC 4 in Libourne, colored the BSPP in the engineer color, moved the 24th battalion to the Île-de-France Zone (I hope that is correct). I left the division's command battalions as they are, because they will be formed anyway. Also: created graphics for the two divisions: File:French Armée de Terre - 1re Division organization 2025.png and File:French Armée de Terre - 3e Division organization 2025.png. Thank you for your help in updating these graphics, Noclador (talk) 23:28, 12 November 2024 (UTC)

Amazing work thank you so much Luludu38 (talk) 21:22, 13 November 2024 (UTC)

French Armée de Terre organization 2025

National Guard

Hello Noclador, for some reason a lot of your edits over on Wikipedia are wrong or not sourced. I thought I would help you (i've organised them by division). These are the first four divisions, I have more but still gaining information and waiting for responses from the last few divisions and brigades.

• The 28th, 29th, and 40th Infantry Divisions do not have a division artillery yet (they will gain them in FY2025)

28th Infantry Division

• 28th Division Artillery will stand up on 1 September 2025 by reorganisation of 1/109th Field Artillery -
• 28th Division Sustainment Brigade is not the same as the 371st, it is a new formation based out of harrisburg with 28th Finance Bn and 728th Division Sustainment Bn -
• 28th Infantry Division's aviation brigade is called "Expeditionary Combat Aviation Brigade, 28th Infantry Division", and the brigade also commands the 1/230th out of Tennessee
• The 213th Regional Support Group is part of the 28th Division -
• The 371st Sustainment Brigade is part of the 28th Division as well (aligned from Ohio)

29th Infantry Division

• 29th Division Artillery has not stood up yet
• 142nd Field Artillery Brigade no longer has an independent signal or target acquisition unit
• 113th Sustainment Brigade has not been renamed
• 130th Maneuver Enhancement Brigade will be reorganised as a protection brigade and join the division shortly -
• 1297th Combat Sustainment Support Bn is part of 58th Troop Command (MD NG)
• The official designation for the aviation brigade is "Expeditionary Combat Aviation Brigade, 29th Infantry Division"

34th Infantry Division

• 141st Maneuver Enhancement Brigade from Wisconsin is converting to a protection brigade
• The sustainment brigade is actually "34th Division Sustainment Brigade" -> you seem to add "infantry division" to each of these, but they don't use that designation
• 347th Regional Support Group includes the 147th and 247th Financial Management Support Detachments, 1347th Division Sustainment Support Bn, 1903rd and 1904th Acquisition Teams
• Again, the aviation brigade: "Expeditionary Combat Aviation Brigade, 34th Infantry Division" -> includes 1/183rd Aviation out of Idaho and 1/112th out of North Dakota, 1/189th out of Montana as well
• 115th Field Artillery Bde doesn't have an independent signal company anymore (no field artillery brigade does in the national guard, they were absorbed by the Brigade Spt bns in 2017)

35th Infantry Division

• 35th Division Artillery does not have a support bn yet
• 130th Field Artillery Brigade is aligned to the division
• 230th Sustainment Brigade has not been renamed, you seem to have renamed all of these, but name changes have not occurred yet as per each brigade's public affairs officers (except 34th and 38th)
• Again, the aviation brigade: "Expeditionary Combat Aviation Brigade, 35th Infantry Division"

Hope these help. Again, still waiting for the 36th, 38th, 40th, and 42nd to give me updates, they have (especially the 42nd out of my own state) been super helpful, but said I should wait till December for the end of year reports. I will provide updates for them then! Any questions are welcome if you need help here. I work with the NY National Guard occasionally so any questions you can pass along if needed as well! Coldstreamer20 (talk) 19:31, 12 November 2024 (UTC) Coldstreamer20 (talk) 19:31, 12 November 2024 (UTC)

Hello Coldstreamer20, thank you for your work. I created the graphics based on that the envisioned end state of the division after the Army 2030 reform concludes. That info is certainly outdated by now, and as you noticed the graphics need to be updated. I will do the British Army tonight, then get to the US divisions in the coming days. If I have questions, I will ping you. Cheers, and best regards, Noclador (talk) 19:39, 12 November 2024 (UTC)

I updated the four division's articles on the English wiki. AFAIK regional support are only with divisions for administrative purposes and not for operationally assigned. Please check the four divisions on wikipedia for correctness and if all is ok, then I will update the graphics with the units operationally assigned to the divisions. Best regards, Noclador (talk) 16:35, 13 November 2024 (UTC)

No problem! Yeah, the whole administrative/operational thing is very confusing for some. Each division HQ is (theoretically) until 2025/2030ish administrative formations that only command brigades for training. But with the changes, they become operational like the regulars. So, what you want to do is up to you, for my graphics I do both: File:28th Infantry Division - Operational Organization 2024.png and File:28th Infantry Division - Administrative Organization 2024.png for example. But, again I'm still working on the last four divisions which I have some information for, but not enough to provide a full oob as of yet. Coldstreamer20 (talk) 17:51, 13 November 2024 (UTC)

I am working on independent lists down to detachment/platoon level per grouping (Regular, Reserve, and National Guard). I have worked extensively for almost 2 years now here: User:Coldstreamer20/National Guard for them. However, please due use a grain of salt, as much of the information (not all, and indeed nothing for the operational formations ie divisions) is outdated from 2013/2016. The divisions are all up to date (again less those last 4 divisions) and the subordinate structure of most units in the north east (like NY, CT, PA, and NJ). So if this helps, please feel free to use, if not no harm in sharing. Coldstreamer20 (talk) 18:08, 13 November 2024 (UTC)

Hello again Noclador, I bring updates and cookies! No, but seriously.. So the 29th Infantry Division just activated their artillery hadquarters in Bowling Green, VA ([1] and [2]); as well as the 40th Infantry Division ([3]). This leaves all but the 28th with a divisional artillery now. 1/183rd Aviation (assault) is now part of the 34th Infantry Division (see 34th Infantry Division magazine). 230th Sustainment Brigade is now 35th Division Sustainment Brigade ([4]). Hope this helps, cherio! Coldstreamer20 (talk) 03:09, 16 February 2025 (UTC)

3e Division Armée de terre

Hi,

About the File:French Armée de Terre - 3e Division organization 2025, the HQ of the 2e brigade blindée is located in Strasbourg but the 2e compagnie de commandement et de transmissions is located in Illkirch.

Also, 2 new reserve bataillons were juste created a few dans ago : the "Bataillon de réserve des Alpes" for the 27e brigade d'infanterie de montagne and the "Bataillon de marche de la 6e brigade légère blindée". In the future, each interarms brigades will have a reserve bataillon. 90.19.162.130 08:05, 13 November 2024 (UTC)

Thank you for the information. I updated all the graphics. If there are any other changes, please let me know. Cheers, and best regards, Noclador (talk) 11:23, 13 November 2024 (UTC)

Icons

Hello Noclador, hope you're well. While I was working on updating divisions and such graphics, I noticed that NATO (specifically the USA) has changed icons recently. Among the changes includes a few notable changes:

1) Supply is no longer used unless it's an addition to a unit (ie: Medical Supply or Transport Supply); no more independent 'supply units'

2) 'Self-propelled field artillery' has been replaced by the Field Artillery icon with a tracked supporting icon

There is many other small changes, but you can see them here: NATO Icons

Thought I'd help a fellow graphic designer, happy holidays! Coldstreamer20 (talk) 23:40, 26 November 2024 (UTC)

Neue Struktur des Litauischen Heeres

Hallo @Noclador, hättest Du Zeit und Lust ein neues Organigramm (Stand Januar 2025) des Litauischen Heeres zu erstellen? Das wäre spitze! Hinzugekommen sind: die Erste Division der Litauischen Streitkräfte, eine Divisionsartilleriebatterie, sowie mehrere eigenständige Kompanien in den drei Brigaden. Wenn Du Nachweise zur Gliederung bräuchtest bin ich gerne behilflich! lg @ Schusterjunge2 Schusterjunge 2 (talk) 21:41, 31 January 2025 (UTC)

@Schusterjunge 2: - all updated. See: File:Lithuanian Armed Forces organization 2025.png, File:Lithuanian Land Forces organization 2025.png, File:Lithuanian Land Forces - 1st Division organization 2025.png, File:Lithuanian Air Force organization 2025.png, File:Lithuanian Naval Forces organization 2025.png. Best regards, Noclador (talk) 11:40, 9 February 2025 (UTC)

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The source for the numbers of the Israeli brigades.

Hey, I saw that you are the creator of the file "File:Israel 877th Division - Organization 2024.png." Could you provide me with a link to its source? Or, if you drew it yourself, could you explain what it is based on? רכפתן (talk) 21:02, 24 February 2025 (UTC)

Hello, I created it based on the information found at he:אוגדת_אזור_יהודה_ושומרון. The data about the brigade's battalions was taken from their articles on the Hebrew wiki. If there are any changes required, please let me know and I will change the graphic ASAP. Best regards, Noclador (talk) 21:13, 24 February 2025 (UTC)

I checked the he:חטיבת עציון article, and its number is not mentioned there—same for the other regional brigades. Are the Hebrew articles your only source for this data?

By the way, do you speak Hebrew by any chance? רכפתן (talk) 22:09, 24 February 2025 (UTC)

For the Etzion brigade the first line in the Hebrew article includes: מספרה הוא 426. I copied all the data 1:1 from the Hebrew wiki in November 2023 as there was a spike in interest there about the IDF orbats and the wiki articles on the English wiki were all merely stubs. If since then the info on the Hebrew wiki has been changed, then the English wiki articles need to updated accordingly. I do not speak Hebrew, but ask an Israeli editor to have a look if all the translations are correct. Noclador (talk) 22:29, 24 February 2025 (UTC)

The current wording is my edit, and it turns out to be a "circular reference" since the only information I have on the subject is your image. I'll try to check further, and if I find any new information, I'll update you. רכפתן (talk) 22:38, 24 February 2025 (UTC)

Fixes to ROKMC Structure Chart

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Republic_of_Korea_Marine_Corps#/media/File:Republic_of_Korea_Marine_Corps_Structure.png

Recon no longer in 6th Bde. Low Alt. Air Defense (6th LAAD) in 6th Bde.

New Special Force Recon Bn under ROKMC HQ.

More details in the Order of Battle chart above the structure .png in the main Wiki page. '' 121.182.39.81 16:26, 2 March 2025 (UTC)

Air Group is ROK MAG (Marine Air Group).

Logistics Group is ROK LSG (Logistics Support Group). 121.182.39.81 16:30, 2 March 2025 (UTC)

Updated - please check for error or omissions. Thank you for letting me know. Best regards, Noclador (talk) 12:42, 3 March 2025 (UTC)

Looks great!

I also just updated the Order of Battle chart ~ because the more I looked at it, the more I realized how outdated it was. (I recently EAS'd from the ROKMC)

I added a bunch of new information on the tree itself. Would be more up-to-date if you were to take it into consideration for the structure chart.

Thank you for all your contributions. 121.182.39.81 17:37, 3 March 2025 (UTC)

I am redoing the chart now. A few questions: 6th Brigades doesn't have an intelligence company? Also: the 16th Reserve Forces Management Regiment is listed two times: once under 1st Division and once under Marine Corps Education and Training Group? which of the two is correct? Also: the 1st and 2nd Reserve Forces Management Battalion under 2nd Division - are those not the battalions of the 16th Reserve Forces Management Regiment? Are the squadrons of Marine Air Group battalion of company sized? Does the Marine Air Group have a headquarters company? Is ETG Headquarters a battalion or a company? Are the artillery units companies or batteries? Thank you for your answers, Noclador (talk) 20:47, 3 March 2025 (UTC)

Fixed.

The 16th Reserve Forces are under the 1ROKMARDIV. Whatever was under the ETG was an incorrect detail that was from the previous edits before me that I didn't catch.

The 1st and 2nd Reserve Forces Management Battalions are under the 2ROKMARDIV, and are separate from the 16th.

The MAG's are, in theory, battalion sized squadrons.

ETG HQ has been specified as a battalion sized unit.

& All artillery/LAAD company sized units have been changed to batteries.

Including the addition of the 1st LAAD Battery directly under 1ROKMARDIV, and 2nd LAAD Battery Under 2ROKMARDIV's 2nd Marine Artillery Brigade. 121.182.39.81 05:32, 4 March 2025 (UTC)

Updated. I put the 2nd LAAD Battery under 2ROKMARDIV for now, because I would like you to check if the two LAAD batteries are really assigned to different higher commands (one to division, one to artillery brigade). Also added all training companies of the Amphibious Warfare Training Battalion and the various command and centers under ROK Marine Corps. Please check the graphic for errors or mission. Also, if you are Korean I can send you the basic psd file for you to edit and translate into Korean. Best regards, Noclador (talk) 06:58, 4 March 2025 (UTC)

I was a LAAD gunner in the ROKMC that EAS'd in 2024.

1st LAAD Bat. is under Division command, while 2nd LAAD Bat. is under the Arty. Brigade. I'm not sure why, but that's how it is.

Yes, I'm Korean but I don't have the ability to open psd files. Apologies for that. 121.182.39.81 07:26, 4 March 2025 (UTC)

Fixed 2nd LAAD Battery. If you need any further changes or require the base file, please let me know. Thank you for updating the data in the ROKMC article. Cheers, Noclador (talk) 10:25, 4 March 2025 (UTC)

Israeli Air Force ORBAT

Hey mate, I'm just chucking this in here to ask why you used the specific symbol you did for the Israeli Air Force's fighter squadrons on their ORBAT, as I don't really understand why and was hoping to find some clarification if you don't mind. Cheers Decooldude (talk) 13:26, 1 April 2025 (UTC)

NATO APP-6 (C) and MIL-STD-2525B symbology, as approved by an IDF member back then. Noclador (talk) 00:39, 2 April 2025 (UTC)

12 Infantry Battalion 11 Airmobile Brigade Mislabeled as Airborne

The map here labels the unit as airborne rather than air assault: File:Germany Army - Organization 2025 with integrated Dutch units.png

From what I can gather from other sources and this map (https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/0/04/Gliederung_Heer_2020-03.svg), battalion 11 of the brigade is classified as airborne and battalions 12 and 13 are classified as air assault. 47.198.193.18 07:14, 6 April 2025 (UTC)

11 Infanteriebataljon is a paratroopers unit and all four companies are airborne qualified, 12 Infanteriebataljon is a special forces support unit and two of its companies (Charlie and Delta) are airborne qualified, 13 Infanteriebataljon is an air assault unit. Noclador (talk) 14:47, 6 April 2025 (UTC)